Stephanie K.: Yeah, I have. I think that the one that you’re using, the idea of a circular flow kind of works if we’re talking about just within the economy, the private sector of the economy. I think that the problem is for me, if we start talking about a circular flow and government spending and taxes.
Stephanie K.: Then I get worried that what happens [00:19:30] is people believe that that money the government collects in taxes, comes back around to government and then funds new spending. That’s not what we want people to think.
19:30
Stephanie K.: What I would suggest instead I guess is, to picture a bathroom sink or a bathtub, and to think of the government spending… think of a vertical line rather than a circle. From the very top, the government is spending money into the economy, so maybe that’s the water coming [00:20:00] from the faucet into the sink.
Stephanie K.: Now, the economy is being flooded with some dollars that were spent into it. At the same time, the government is taxing some of that out, and so that’s the drain. That’s just shooting straight down and it’s just gone. It doesn’t go back to government and fund the next round of spending.
Stephanie K.: It’s more like, I don’t like the metaphor of printing money, but if I’m going to use it, I’ll say that spending is like hitting in the print key on the keyboard, and taxing is like hitting [00:20:30] the delete key. It’s just removing some of the money that the government spent into the economy. I think, yeah, a vertical line works better.
Thanks largely to the brilliant foresight of Messrs Mosler, Mitchell & Wray, their journey towards gaining a superior understanding of the monetary system enabled the emergence of Mrs Stephanie Kelton to help Bern the falsehoods of mainstream #economics forever.
Tom Wohlfarth “Klassenkampf statt Klimakrieg“, der Freitag, Das Meinungsmedium, 2019.9.3
https://www.freitag.de/autoren/tom-wohlfarth/klassenkampf-statt-klimakrieg
Originally published on demokratiEvolution
#1 Mosler used this story to illustrate some basic principles about the way sovereign currency issuers actually fund themselves. Taxes are there to create a demand for government currency. The government can define the currency in terms of its own unique unit of account—a dollar, a yen, a pound, a peso—and then give value to its own otherwise worthless paper by requiring it in payment of taxes or other obligations. As Mosler jokes, “Taxes turn litter into currency.” At the end of the day, a currency-issuing government wants something real, not something monetary. It’s not our tax money the government wants. It’s our time. To get us to produce things for the state, the government invents taxes or other kinds of payment obligations. This isn’t the explanation you’ll find in most economics textbooks, where a superficial story about money being invented to overcome the inefficiencies associated with bartering—trading goods without the use of money—is preferred. In that story, money is just a convenient device that sprang up organically as a way to make trade more efficient. Although students are taught that barter was once omnipresent, a sort of natural state of being, scholars of the ancient world have found little evidence that societies were ever organized around barter exchange.10
What is Modern Monetary Theory? (with Stephanie Kelton) – Pitchfork Economics 2019/4/23 http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com/episode/what-is-modern-monetary-theory-with-stephanie-kelton/ ケルトンは政府予算についての循環型フローのイメージは危険だと言う。 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1133002891201933313/pu/vid/1280x720/WhePUmi_ZpvaVkpH.mp4
Stephanie K.: Yeah, I have. I think that the one that you’re using, the idea of a circular flow kind of works if we’re talking about just within the economy, the private sector of the economy. I think that the problem is for me, if we start talking about a circular flow and government spending and taxes.
Stephanie K.: Then I get worried that what happens [00:19:30] is people believe that that money the government collects in taxes, comes back around to government and then funds new spending. That’s not what we want people to think.
19:30
Stephanie K.: What I would suggest instead I guess is, to picture a bathroom sink or a bathtub, and to think of the government spending… think of a vertical line rather than a circle. From the very top, the government is spending money into the economy, so maybe that’s the water coming [00:20:00] from the faucet into the sink. Stephanie K.: Now, the economy is being flooded with some dollars that were spent into it. At the same time, the government is taxing some of that out, and so that’s the drain. That’s just shooting straight down and it’s just gone. It doesn’t go back to government and fund the next round of spending. Stephanie K.: It’s more like, I don’t like the metaphor of printing money, but if I’m going to use it, I’ll say that spending is like hitting in the print key on the keyboard, and taxing is like hitting [00:20:30] the delete key. It’s just removing some of the money that the government spent into the economy. I think, yeah, a vertical line works better.
What is Modern Monetary Theory? (with Stephanie Kelton) – Pitchfork Economics 2019/4/23 http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com/episode/what-is-modern-monetary-theory-with-stephanie-kelton/ ケルトンは政府予算についての循環型フローのイメージは危険だと言う。 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1133002891201933313/pu/vid/1280x720/WhePUmi_ZpvaVkpH.mp4
Stephanie K.: Yeah, I have. I think that the one that you’re using, the idea of a circular flow kind of works if we’re talking about just within the economy, the private sector of the economy. I think that the problem is for me, if we start talking about a circular flow and government spending and taxes.
Stephanie K.: Then I get worried that what happens [00:19:30] is people believe that that money the government collects in taxes, comes back around to government and then funds new spending. That’s not what we want people to think.
19:30
Stephanie K.: What I would suggest instead I guess is, to picture a bathroom sink or a bathtub, and to think of the government spending… think of a vertical line rather than a circle. From the very top, the government is spending money into the economy, so maybe that’s the water coming [00:20:00] from the faucet into the sink. Stephanie K.: Now, the economy is being flooded with some dollars that were spent into it. At the same time, the government is taxing some of that out, and so that’s the drain. That’s just shooting straight down and it’s just gone. It doesn’t go back to government and fund the next round of spending. Stephanie K.: It’s more like, I don’t like the metaphor of printing money, but if I’m going to use it, I’ll say that spending is like hitting in the print key on the keyboard, and taxing is like hitting [00:20:30] the delete key. It’s just removing some of the money that the government spent into the economy. I think, yeah, a vertical line works better.
What is Modern Monetary Theory? (with Stephanie Kelton) – Pitchfork Economics 2019/4/23 http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com/episode/what-is-modern-monetary-theory-with-stephanie-kelton/ ケルトンは政府予算についての循環型フローのイメージは危険だと言う。 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1133002891201933313/pu/vid/1280x720/WhePUmi_ZpvaVkpH.mp4
What is Modern Monetary Theory? (with Stephanie Kelton) – Pitchfork Economics 2019/4/23 http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com/episode/what-is-modern-monetary-theory-with-stephanie-kelton/ ケルトンは政府予算についての循環型フローのイメージは危険だと言う。 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1133002891201933313/pu/vid/1280x720/WhePUmi_ZpvaVkpH.mp4
2020/02/26 10:35
Not knowing the difference between the debt and the deficit should probably be disqualifying.
https://twitter.com/stephaniekelton/status/1232479360512249856?s=21